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PostSubject: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:56 pm

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Hey guys, so about two months ago I was watching the news and this trilogy caught the eyes of American women across the nation(i don't know about other countries though). I saw a thread like this on mangaupdates and decided to give a swing at creating a discussion with people on sms about it.

I created a poll and allowed cancellation of votes in case people change their minds, such as those who haven't read it end up reading it and have a new opinion.

I heard a few things about it so far such as it was originally a fanfiction based on Twilight and that the characters are kind of one dimensional. So as of right now, I'm "not going to read it." However, I'm open-minded to other people's opinions whether it be good or bad (as long as it doesn't get ugly ie ill mannered language such as swearing).

I probably won't take part in the discussion very much because I haven't read it so it wouldn't be fair to give an opinion (unless I do decide to pick up the book)

Check out the summary on amazon if you haven't heard of it or just google the summary.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:51 pm

The review was amusing and really hits home why we shouldn't read it. Thanks for sharing. I'd say that this book ought not be sold here but like anything forbidden, everyone wants a piece of it. So let mature readers judge for themselves, I guess.

And at least the girl said that she's disturbed with the story. It should be the parents that monitor their children's reading materials but maybe they thought she was matured enough for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:14 am

I'm late but a agree that i think the only reason this book is kinda popular is because of the link with the twilight thingy.. and i'm pretty sure twilight fans would want to buy it, and it will be the only reason it gets into top 10 list or anything...

i mean, let's get real... Twilight books are basically, kinda like fanfiction already to me, so a book based on a fanfiction of a fanfiction? like really? i have nothing against fanfictions, i mean i read them too.. but i usually reads them for fun, and for most of them i wouldn't want to spent any money buying them.. the only reason i read them is because they are free and easy to access, you know...

and IMO, the publishers probably invent all those hype around the book in order to cheat ppl out of their hard earned money and buy it, even though the book is crap... they're trying to rake in as much money as they can while there's still some hype left from twilight....

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:31 pm

Well, I've never read Twilight and I don't plan to, so I'm not sure how accurate the "fanfiction of a fanfiction" comment is. So in that sense, that's what I heard about Fifty Shades, but I just don't get how the two are related... From what I can gather, the main guy isn't a vampire. Or is he?

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and IMO, the publishers probably invent all those hype around the book in order to cheat ppl out of their hard earned money and buy it, even though the book is crap... they're trying to rake in as much money as they can while there's still some hype left from twilight....

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That is so true! And more than "cheat" people out of their hard earned money, I think the sad thing is that people really are willing to buy it... Especially with all this hype. Like just because lots of people say it is good, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:40 pm

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That is so true! And more than "cheat" people out of their hard earned money, I think the sad thing is that people really are willing to buy it... Especially with all this hype. Like just because lots of people say it is good, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is.

I agree too. I mean there are people who jump on the bandwagon the minute people say it's good. I'd rather reserve judgement for myself. What's the point of buying books if you're not going to read them after all.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:28 pm

i think the reason ppl are jumping into the bandwagon is, because they want to be 'cool'... they want to be able to say, hey, i've read that book when talking to others... nowadays, ppl even say they've read a book, when the truth is, they've never read it...

or they want to avoid certain situations... i've read only one twilight book (didn't finished it, coz i don't know, i lost interest midway) and flip through the others at the bookstore.. but when twilight fans assume i've read the books, i didn't say anything, because it is easier that way... there was an occasion when i said i didn't read it these twihards (or whatever they call themselves, i forgot) started to attack me.... you know how most of them are... pale vultures, the lot of them... pale

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:50 pm

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i think the reason ppl are jumping into the bandwagon is, because they want to be 'cool'... they want to be able to say, hey, i've read that book when talking to others... nowadays, ppl even say they've read a book, when the truth is, they've never read it...

or they want to avoid certain situations... i've read only one twilight book (didn't finished it, coz i don't know, i lost interest midway) and flip through the others at the bookstore.. but when twilight fans assume i've read the books, i didn't say anything, because it is easier that way... there was an occasion when i said i didn't read it these twihards (or whatever they call themselves, i forgot) started to attack me.... you know how most of them are... pale vultures, the lot of them... pale


Wow, that's bad... I think reading like everything else is a choice and everyone is free to choose what they want to read. I don't discriminate on a person for reading something that I wouldn't read, as long as they don't try to push the book down my throat. Luckily my friends read nearly the same genre so we have no problems when we discuss books.

And I also understand the feeling when you lose interest in a book. Don't worry about it ^_^
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PostSubject: Funny thing...   Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:36 am

My grandmother just told me that she is reading these...!!
As she is usually very serious about what she reads, this cracks me up. I never thought that she would read anything that wasn't considered an instant classic.

No, wait, they are on all of the best selling lists, so maybe she didn't realise? ahem.

I am going to wait a bit to see if people are still talking about them in a few years time. If I find that this is a social reference that 'everyone' should know about, then maybe...
(I ended up reading the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo because I got so curious, and then I couldn't put it down. I guess I will never be a high brow kinda person...)

Thank you for a thought provoking poll, and I get to jabber on in English! yeah!
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PostSubject: another trilogy   Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:23 am

they say it's literary pornography. got explicit scenes but i've read marquis de sade works so how worse can it be?

i think the reason why it is being talked again is that the guy who plays damon in vampire diaries is the one billed to play the main role in the movie. not to sure about it but my younger sister was badgering me a few months ago about this book since her Damon's gonna play in it. i think the "vampirism" aspect of it is superficial like Damon being a vampire in the vampire diaries so it must be kinda twilightish which is not.

the book is more about s & m practices.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:27 am

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My grandmother just told me that she is reading these...!!
As she is usually very serious about what she reads, this cracks me up. I never thought that she would read anything that wasn't considered an instant classic.
!!! That's pretty uh... Lol, I hope she doesn't feel too awkward after reading these. You should ask her what she thinks after she's done Razz

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they say it's literary pornography. got explicit scenes but i've read marquis de sade works so how worse can it be?

i think the reason why it is being talked again is that the guy who plays damon in vampire diaries is the one billed to play the main role in the movie. not to sure about it but my younger sister was badgering me a few months ago about this book since her Damon's gonna play in it. i think the "vampirism" aspect of it is superficial like Damon being a vampire in the vampire diaries so it must be kinda twilightish which is not.

the book is more about s & m practices.
Well... If you've read romance novels, those can be pretty explicit. And based on my experience with the one and only ero-novella I read, those are even more explicit. So I mean, I'm sure that style of explicitness has "all be done before".

The whole movie aspect just gives me the "Twilight" feel to it. A movie that is supposed to be based off of an ero-novel... Like how far exactly are they going to go with it? Rolling Eyes

And from the sounds of some reviews from people who are actually into S&M, the book isn't very good at it since the author didn't even know much about it...

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:39 am

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!!! That's pretty uh... Lol, I hope she doesn't feel too awkward after reading these. You should ask her what she thinks after she's done Razz

I'll let you know...
No word yet, but I'll be talking with her this weekend. ahem!
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:41 am

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:18 am

Haha, I kind of wish there was an option for "attempted to read and gave up" or "better used for kindling". I honestly don't know what the appeal is. I couldn't get past the writing style or how silly the characters were. I had a similar reaction to when I tried reading Twilight so I guess I should have seen that coming. Haha!
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:12 pm

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Haha, I kind of wish there was an option for "attempted to read and gave up" or "better used for kindling". I honestly don't know what the appeal is. I couldn't get past the writing style or how silly the characters were. I had a similar reaction to when I tried reading Twilight so I guess I should have seen that coming. Haha!

Haha, that's one option I'd probably tick too. A book reviewer had written about this book and the need for the book to be labeled with some age-appropriate tag in the local papers yesterday. I agree with her though, it'd be better if the parents took the time to find out what the book is about and talk to their kids about it instead of relying on warning labels and such to censor their kid's reading materials. After all, even if you don't allow them to buy the physical book, they can always get their hands on an e-book version.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:37 pm

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Haha, that's one option I'd probably tick too. A book reviewer had written about this book and the need for the book to be labeled with some age-appropriate tag in the local papers yesterday. I agree with her though, it'd be better if the parents took the time to find out what the book is about and talk to their kids about it instead of relying on warning labels and such to censor their kid's reading materials. After all, even if you don't allow them to buy the physical book, they can always get their hands on an e-book version.
You would think they would do that since they do that with mangas and what not! Have a rating associated with it and those that are extremely graphic are even shrink-wrapped...

That's why I generally don't follow any pop-culture things. People just hype about it when they don't even know what it's about... But of course media tries to capitalize on it since all these people have "sheep" mentality. haha, irks me to follow the masses or something XD

You would think that they categorize it properly though... I mean the fact that it belongs in the "erotic" category should raise warning bells for parents... Like you would let your kids read things with explicit content?? Rolling Eyes Though I'm guessing it's located in those "hot seller" shelves where yeah...

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:46 pm

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You would think they would do that since they do that with mangas and what not! Have a rating associated with it and those that are extremely graphic are even shrink-wrapped...

True, but there are always those who would be curious anyway. But I agree to shrink wrapping manga though. graphic is easier to digest than words, where you have to use your imagination... sometimes the images just stay with you... also, mangas and graphic novels can be read really fast so people just stand at the bookstore all day reading instead of buying, which is not fair to the stores.


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You would think that they categorize it properly though... I mean the fact that it belongs in the "erotic" category should raise warning bells for parents... Like you would let your kids read things with explicit content?? Rolling Eyes Though I'm guessing it's located in those "hot seller" shelves where yeah...

If it were only in the best seller shelves, I wouldn't say much. But I think I've seen it in the teen section, next to twilight... That was before I knew what it was about else I'd approach the counter and tell them to move it...
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:29 am

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True, but there are always those who would be curious anyway. But I agree to shrink wrapping manga though. graphic is easier to digest than words, where you have to use your imagination... sometimes the images just stay with you... also, mangas and graphic novels can be read really fast so people just stand at the bookstore all day reading instead of buying, which is not fair to the stores.
Yeah, that's so true. haha, I do that from time to time... Mostly because I don't like the story enough to actually want a copy of it. Though not really anymore. I agree. Images have a way of being stored in your head that sticks around while words take time to digest. I know all the books were shrink-wrapped when I was in Japan, regardless. Makes you HAVE to buy it before you can read it. Unless you were in the used book/cd store. Then it was like a library... Laughing


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If it were only in the best seller shelves, I wouldn't say much. But I think I've seen it in the teen section, next to twilight... That was before I knew what it was about else I'd approach the counter and tell them to move it...
Shocked Are you serious?! What is WRONG with people these days?! That is definitely not meant to be teen material... Sheesh!
I don't go to the bookstore that often so I wouldn't notice. I only go if there's a specific book that I'm looking for.

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:10 am

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Yeah, that's so true. haha, I do that from time to time... Mostly because I don't like the story enough to actually want a copy of it. Though not really anymore. I agree. Images have a way of being stored in your head that sticks around while words take time to digest. I know all the books were shrink-wrapped when I was in Japan, regardless. Makes you HAVE to buy it before you can read it. Unless you were in the used book/cd store. Then it was like a library... Laughing

I didn't know that! Smile That's rather ingenious! Also... you wouldn't see as many damaged/aged books because of the shrink-wrap.

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If it were only in the best seller shelves, I wouldn't say much. But I think I've seen it in the teen section, next to twilight... That was before I knew what it was about else I'd approach the counter and tell them to move it...
... I'm a bit in shock. LOL. At least put them in the appropriate section, people! I don't know that I'd want a 12/13 year-old finding 50 Shades and thinking it was a good book. *shudders*
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:27 pm

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Yeah, that's so true. haha, I do that from time to time... Mostly because I don't like the story enough to actually want a copy of it. Though not really anymore. I agree. Images have a way of being stored in your head that sticks around while words take time to digest. I know all the books were shrink-wrapped when I was in Japan, regardless. Makes you HAVE to buy it before you can read it. Unless you were in the used book/cd store. Then it was like a library... Laughing

Really? The only bookstore I went to in Japan was Book-Off, which is kind of second-handish... but the manga was cheap...


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Shocked Are you serious?! What is WRONG with people these days?! That is definitely not meant to be teen material... Sheesh!
I don't go to the bookstore that often so I wouldn't notice. I only go if there's a specific book that I'm looking for.

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... I'm a bit in shock. LOL. At least put them in the appropriate section, people! I don't know that I'd want a 12/13 year-old finding 50 Shades and thinking it was a good book. *shudders*

I am too. I think it's a problem when the staff of the bookstore doesn't find out what the book is about before they arrange it... I've found books better defined as teens but in the fantasy section and vice versa. Sometimes if my brother and I are free, we actually just move the books into their respective sections for the heck of it. (we also pretend to set fire to Twilight books but that's a different story Wink )
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:49 pm

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Sometimes if my brother and I are free, we actually just move the books into their respective sections for the heck of it. (we also pretend to set fire to Twilight books but that's a different story Wink )

I don't know how it works at a bookstore, but when they have to shelve them I would've thought that there would be some sort of list of where they'd go (genre-wise). Re: Twilight - Best use of a lighter? ROFL!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:31 am

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Really? The only bookstore I went to in Japan was Book-Off, which is kind of second-handish... but the manga was cheap...
Yeah, yeah! That's the one I was in too and it was craaazy! Every shelf is lined up with people reading the manga there... I even joined in for a bit, though I really can't read any of it... Laughing It was pretty funny, since you'd see like 10 people lined up just standing there. And if you wanted to reach something someone was standing in front of, they just kind of shuffle out of the way.

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I am too. I think it's a problem when the staff of the bookstore doesn't find out what the book is about before they arrange it... I've found books better defined as teens but in the fantasy section and vice versa. Sometimes if my brother and I are free, we actually just move the books into their respective sections for the heck of it. (we also pretend to set fire to Twilight books but that's a different story Wink )
Well, they probably have a set list of how they organize books. Like certain authors write specific genres of books, so they categorize it that way... And since Twilight is a teen-fiction work, and it's supposed to be based off of Twilight, I guess they just assumed it would fit there? Rolling Eyes

So just curious since it's kind of on-topic, but am I the only one here who hasn't read any of Twilight? I mean, I HEARD it was terrible and I believe it, but I have no experience with it first-hand Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:39 am

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So just curious since it's kind of on-topic, but am I the only one here who hasn't read any of Twilight? I mean, I HEARD it was terrible and I believe it, but I have no experience with it first-hand Laughing

LOL. I hope it stays that way, aerysa. Very Happy It's hard to purge your mind after reading it. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:19 pm

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Yeah, yeah! That's the one I was in too and it was craaazy! Every shelf is lined up with people reading the manga there... I even joined in for a bit, though I really can't read any of it... Laughing It was pretty funny, since you'd see like 10 people lined up just standing there. And if you wanted to reach something someone was standing in front of, they just kind of shuffle out of the way.

I was really happy to see all those manga but I had to control myself since I didn't want to weigh my luggage down and pay for it... but I'd love to visit again...

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Well, they probably have a set list of how they organize books. Like certain authors write specific genres of books, so they categorize it that way... And since Twilight is a teen-fiction work, and it's supposed to be based off of Twilight, I guess they just assumed it would fit there? Rolling Eyes

Well, the shelves here have the genre written on them, then the books of the same genre are arranged alphabetically. Saves time, usually, except when the books have more than one category... Teen fantasy is the one that gets the most confusion, I think.

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So just curious since it's kind of on-topic, but am I the only one here who hasn't read any of Twilight? I mean, I HEARD it was terrible and I believe it, but I have no experience with it first-hand Laughing

Lol, no. I haven't read it but well. Twilight is not the genre I usually read and the hype from the movie just made me feel a bit alienated. So, no, you're not the only one. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:27 pm

I had a bit of curiosity, but not that enormous. I don't consider myself conservative, but since it has themes such as BDSM and domination, well... isn't quite appealing to me, added to the fact that the girl is the M.

So I went to the infamous Wikipedia (that habit of spoiling myself), and I think I'm not missing something in my life. But whatever, I truly respect other opinions, but I'm not that sure about New York Time's ratings.

Maybe if it were something in a lesser degree and not that defined S/M relationship, I'd read it (with equal roles or guy a little weaker than the girl). For example Maddie's Love-Child or Koi no Rule o Wasuretara ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:38 am

I bought the first volume because I am a cover person and the cover caught my eyes. I skim through it and found it not very likeable. I might just buy the next two volumes to find out the ending for the two characters.
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PostSubject: Re: Fifty Shades of Grey    Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:52 am

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So just curious since it's kind of on-topic, but am I the only one here who hasn't read any of Twilight? I mean, I HEARD it was terrible and I believe it, but I have no experience with it first-hand Laughing

Lol, no. I haven't read it but well. Twilight is not the genre I usually read and the hype from the movie just made me feel a bit alienated. So, no, you're not the only one. Wink

Nope you guys aren't the only ones. I was going to read it before all the hype with the movie, 2 years before when my friends were reading it but I ended up not doing it b/c at the time I wasn't into reading huge books.....didn't think they'd keep my attention span after attempting harry potter 5 like 3 times and failing to finish it everytime. =p Never gonna read it, never gonna watch it. I considered myself blessed for that. Where I live too.....twilight wasn't such a hit. Those who read it were disappointed by the movies and eventually it became distasteful because of the "twihearts" and all the googly eyed craziness it attracted. When the first movie was coming out, I admit I felt left out for not having read it too but once again, I consider myself blessed =)

@shngml

I think if I was looking for a book in the library and happened upon this book (not knowing its contents) then I probably would have picked it up as well. But knowing what its about, I don't like being hipster.

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I also looked it up on wiki since it was on the news. It's another twilight in that the diction is very limited in both with makes the book shallow and superficial.
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